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 Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2011 03:17 am
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I have just become the owner of the lathe described above. It has been in a barn for many years and when I got it to my shop I discovered that I could not determine make or model other than the markings above.
It has considerable damage to the thread gear assembly. It looks like someone broke both shift levers off and tried to weld back into use. All the gears and levers associated with this part of the machine are in a tub in the cabinet storage area.
I have been trying to determine who imported this machine so that I can try to source repair parts and drawings to ensure that I have it correct. It looks very similar to the 3001-0055 that WT sells, with the exception that the spindle speed levers are on top or head-stock instead of the front face. It also appears that someone has jumped out the electrical controls and replaced the motor with another that uses a two belt pulley to drive the gearing.
I looked into the owners manual and parts lists that Dongizmo has posted on this site and they are not clear enough for me to determine interchangeability.
Assuming it is an early version of the WT 1236, my questions are two:
1. Does anyone know where I can get parts and better drawings for this machine?
2. Does anyone have a better electrical schematic. I'd like to ring out all the wiring before I put power to it, but first I need to replace the lamps and operator buttons which have all been smashed.
If this is another manufacturer's imported product I would love to have any leads that are available.
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Danski

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 Posted: Tue Nov 15th, 2011 06:31 am
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IIRC the VS had a Vari-disc drive like you see on turret milling machines, it is not a gear change for the spindle speeds..
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 Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2011 03:51 am
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Thanks Dongizmo,

Just cause I'm dumb, what does IIRC mean?
I have been digging around on your web site and it looks as though the 1236 that you sell now has the identical thread pitch gear shift arrangement.
Is it possible to get some of these parts to repair the lathe i have now?
I have all the gears (I think) but both shift lever have been broken off and re-welded/brazed/soldered or some other melted metal process that does not lend itself to beauty or expectation of durability.
Ideally I would also like to source a new shifting lever shaft and the bushings/bearings that hold it in position.
If these parts are available and you think they would fit the VS-1236 please let me know cost and I will order.
Also need a better schematic for controls and motor. Any ideas?
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Danski

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 Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2011 06:33 am
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If I Remember Correctly :D
It has only been a little over 20 year since I saw one of those machines.
If it is the Tida VS lathe, they never really had a good parts diagram for that machine, that one was the last "new" one they produced before going out of business.
I don't know if the gearbox shift levers & parts we have/can get now will work on that machine, It is not uncommon for the shift levers on a norton style gearbox like that to be brazed :?.  If you want to trace them on a piece of paper & give some measurements on the shafts & other parts, & fax or e-mail it to me,  I will check them against what we have on hand.
I have nothing on the electrical on that machine, I do remember Tida was fond of little omron relays, which were hard to find here at the time, I believe competitor carries them now...
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 Posted: Fri Nov 18th, 2011 06:00 pm
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Dongizmo,
I've done some more sleuthing and determined that the motor has been replaced. New one is GE and looks fine.
I guess I only need some electrical components to get it turning, and I would like to get two new castings for the thread cutting gear box shift levers.
I wrote a previous reply and attached several pictures along with dimensioned sketch of lever casting but it was rejected as being too big.
I am attaching only sketch on this missive.
My wish list:
1. Two shift lever castings (Enco, Baileigh,Acra, Grizzly all seem to have the same Asian source so I think they might be pretty interchangeable).
2. A detailed single phase 220 volt electrical schematic.
3. A detailed drawing of how the thread pitch gearing is assembled
4. New Start, Jog, Stop, and Power on buttons/switches/lamps. Again these electrical pieces seem to be on almost all of the Asian import machines in the 1236 configurations.
If you have any of these items for sale please let me know costs and how to go about ordering them.
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Danski
PS if you can tell me how to circumvent the file size restriction I can send pix of all areas in question.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 19th, 2011 05:05 am
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Apologies:
I put a wrong dimension on the sketch. The casting thickness should be 1.18 rather than the 1.88 that I have on sketch.
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 Posted: Sat Nov 19th, 2011 11:51 am
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Dan,
I will be out of the office till next Saturday, so I will not know about the shift arm til then, I have the manual for the TD-4  linked on this forum under Tida lathe manuals, the gear train should be very similar to yours, as the VS was a TD-5 with a VS drive.
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